Bugzilla – Bug 6629
Use Band as AlbumArtist isn't a compilation option
Last modified: 2011-03-06 13:45:35 UTC
In Server Settings, under the heading 'Compilations' is the setting for using the Band tag as AlbumArtist. This may at one time have only been applicable to compilations, but it's currently possible to have AlbumArtist and/or Band tags on non-compilations. It was also mentioned in the forums that the wording is confusing: List albums by all artists for that album List albums by band It's really a lot more straightforward than that and should probably read almost exactly like the pref. Maybe "Use Band/TPE2 as Album Artist" and then use either a simple checkbox or else "Enabled" and "Disabled" with radio buttons and drop down boxes.
Rewriting this to be clearer would be good. Post 7.0.
Be glad to rewrite it. What isn't clear?
Is this only a wording issue or is the funcitonality broken?
This bug is related to the wording and the presentation of the option. As I understand it, the option is not related to the treatment of compilation albums or artists appearing on compilations. There are others bugs, such as bug 4624 and bug 6490 that suggest that the option doesn't work as expected. Maybe they could all be rolled into one bug, as I can't imagine you can properly present the option in the interface until it's fully understand what it's intended to do and what it actually does.
Just to be clear, is the "List albums by band" supposed to group tracks into a single album if they all have the same "BAND" tag or "ALBUMARTIST" tag or both?
there are a lot of related bugs and issues regarding this. here's a bug i hope Andy is working on: https://bugs-archive.lyrion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8001 and here is a thread aout both that issue and the totally awful wording of those options: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46145 fixing the bug would solve the grouping / sorting issue, whereas rewriting the wording of the options would clear up the confusion of them and what they are meant to do. using a word like "denote" would go a LONG way in doing this, b/c those options only control how something is labelled, and have nothing to do with where it sorts.
(In reply to comment #6) > there are a lot of related bugs and issues regarding this. Looks like bug 8303 and the new database schema to be introduced with SC 7.3 are intended to address all or most of the issues of tagging and browsing by different tags & contributor rolls.
In SC7.3, there isn't an option "Use band as album artist" - I'm not sure if this bug was relating to the option "List albums by ..." or "Treat TPE2 MP3 tag as ..." I think both of these options are unrelated to Compilations, and should be clearer: "List albums by ..." has nothing to do with Compilations. It relates just to display of information in album context when sorting by artist, and thus should have a different section label (something like "Denote album by:" with options "All contributors on the album" and "Band"). The tooltip should say that an album artist always takes precedence over this option. "Treat TPE2 MP3 tag as ..." should be labelled "Read mp3 TPE2 tags as:" with options to choose "Band" or "Album Artist". Note that this is a scanner preference; changing it requires a rescan. Very annoyingly, it doesn't warn you if you change it - it starts an immediate full rescan, wiping the database. I thought that had been changed, such that it would warn the user that a rescan was necessary, rather than automatically doing it. I suggest that settings such as this one to do with scan-time only are moved to a "Scanner Settings" page/section. eg. "Articles To Ignore When Sorting", and "Separator for Multiple Items in Tags" are other options that require a rescan. Also "Advanced Settings > File Types" is related to the scanner too, so they could be placed together.
this bug should probably be closed. the meat of it is better covered in: bug 10845 there are some relevant issues in this bug, but they should be filed in their own separate bugs.
This bug is really just about the grouping, wording and intention of the so-called "compilation" options. I think they all need to be reworded and their purposes restated. One thing unclear to me about this option now that it's been relabeled "Treat TPE2 MP3 tag as Band/Album Artist" (but still erroneously listed under Settings > My Music > Compilations) is whether or not it affects the treatment of BAND (or its equivalent) in other tagging systems.
(In reply to comment #10) > One thing unclear to me about this option now that it's been relabeled "Treat > TPE2 MP3 tag as Band/Album Artist" (but still erroneously listed under Settings > > My Music > Compilations) is whether or not it affects the treatment of BAND > (or its equivalent) in other tagging systems. no. that option afaik ONLY affects id3 tagged files, b/c the option is applied at scan time via the scanner. in other words, set one way, it [the scanner/TPE2] populates the SBS DB filed of BAND, set the other way it [the scanner/TPE2] populates the SBS DB field of ALBUMARTIST; and as i said, this is applied via the act of scanning, so i don't see how it could affect non-id3 tag formats. > This bug is really just about the grouping, wording and intention of the > so-called "compilation" options. I think they all need to be reworded and their > purposes restated. while i agree with the sentiment, the title of this bug is misleading, and its not clear in this bug what exactly the problems are, and what the solutions should be to fix them. besides, other bugs cover this, such as: bug 10845 (the main one) bug 4341 bug 4754 bug 11159 bug 7515 as well as others. i'm just suggesting that new bugs narrowly focused with specific descriptions of the problems and solutions might get you somewhere, as opposed to this basically dead bug that no one is paying attention to. btw, i've been talking about this for a long time too, see here: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46145 its somewhat out of date now since bug 8001 but a lot of "issue one" still applies.