Bugzilla – Bug 3383
Placeholder Bug: MMS only URLs
Last modified: 2011-11-06 23:23:06 UTC
This bug is meant to be a placeholder to collect URLs that are MMS only. A MMS only URL generally has one or more of the following symptoms: * Plays fine in Windows Media Player, but not on a SB2/SB3 * Plays ok in SoftSqueeze on a Windows machine, but not on a SB2/SB3 * If the user disables built-in WMA decoding (SlimServer 6.2.2 or higher), on Windows, the stream plays ok. ---- * You can generally verify a stream is MMS only in a number of ways: * telnet <IP or hostname> 80 - will give a connection refused. * telnet <IP or hostname> 80 - connects. Type in: GET /path HTTP/1.0 Returns a 404 or some other type of error. Example: * Given: mms://210.118.193.140/wzrc $ telnet 210.118.193.140 80 Trying 210.118.193.140... Connected to 210.118.193.140. Escape character is '^]'. GET /wzrc HTTP/1.0 Connection closed by foreign host. Indicates the server on the remote end doesn't know what to do. Here is the list of URLs so far: mms://210.118.193.140/wzrc mms://69.43.137.40/jazztrax060319h1.wma mms://ms2.capitalinteractive.co.uk/beat_stream http://www.wuftfm.org/WUFT-FM.asx (really: mms://XRA00.jou.ufl.edu/WUFT_HighStream) mms://12.104.73.50/kser mms://netshow.esoterica.pt/nova mms://videosrv1.cod.edu/wdcb See also bug 2911, bug 3181, bug 2860, bug 2326, bug 2911, bug 3096
*** Bug 2911 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Customer reports 'can't open file for error' opening: http://mms.skynet.lt/EHR.asx Same customer reports continus reconnections and no successful playback to this URL: http://www.antfarm.co.za/clients/702/702_16.asx
the following wma URLs don't work in SB3: http://www.galaxymanchester.co.uk/article.asp?ID=96525 http://www.digitalgalaxy.co.uk/article.asp?ID=118725 http://www.radioenergie.com/radioendirect/ckmf.asx
mms://mslive.881903.com/cr2 This one also doesn't work.
mms://ms.mdcs.dtag.de/encoder.toi.hr3_p_live
mms://netcache1-ldn.is.co.za/196.35.64.36/highveld_22 mms://netcache1-ldn.is.co.za/196.35.64.36/5fm_22 mms://netcache1-ldn.is.co.za/196.35.64.36/702_16 mms://netcache1-ny.is.co.za/196.35.64.36/highveld_22 mms://netcache1-ny.is.co.za/196.35.64.36/5fm_22 mms://netcache1-ny.is.co.za/196.35.64.36/702_16 mms://196.35.64.36/highveld_22 mms://196.35.64.36/5fm_22 mms://196.35.64.36/702_16 (TMID 4832)
Here is another mms that isn't working SB2 version 6.3 nightly build june 09,2006 firmware version 54 mms://69.43.137.40/jazztrax060423h1.wma this works in windows media player
mms://wm-live.abacast.com/jazztrax Works with the windows media windows media(built-in) file type is checked mms://69.43.137.40/jazztrax060416h1.wma does not work if with the windows media windows media(built-in) file type is checked mms://69.43.137.40/jazztrax060416h1.wma works if the windows media flac wmadec/flac filetype is checked. The problem I have with the above is that it is a royal pain attempting to remember what works with what when I want to listen to either source. I can't have both files types checked simultanously, if I do then neither one works.
mms://217.151.144.150/rockland Disabling WMA in server settings makes it work
user is trying to play from this playlist: http://wow2.walla.co.il/ts.cgi?player_mode=2&id=[mode=10^id=0]&tsscript=player/pl_manager.asx&pl=9 it contains entries like this that won't play: mms://ba.walla.co.il/radio/3/2/3/8/7/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/32387_22.wma mms://ba.walla.co.il/radio/1/7/9/5/5/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/17955_22.wma mms://ba.walla.co.il/radio/2/3/0/8/6/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/23086_22.wma mms://ba.walla.co.il/radio/2/3/1/0/2/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/23102_22.wma
(reference tmid 5126) from customer: Dear Support Team, I have problem using SB2 opening mms URL, an example is like the following: mms://203.69.144.146/203.69.144.202/live.media.hinet.net/Radio_chimei?RADIOWEBAED178EC-6539-481E-B0E2-EDC06D23B38D
Can a developer answer the following question; Has the issue that relates to comments 7 and 8 been addressed/fixed in any nightly release yet? If not, is there an eta on when someone will be looking into it. This is not new functionality, it used to work in 6.1. Thank you
Marvin - you can leave the built-in decoding unchecked.
I downloaded the lastes nightly. Did what you said do and both streams are working again!! :-)
(TMID 6689) Trying to get this stream to play from Squeezebox: http://www1.881903.com/apps/crmain/livebroadcast/cr2_oversea.asx Can only be played back via SlimServer installed on a PC, with (built-in) Windows Media file type UNCHECKED. We have a customer very interested in getting this station to work from Squeeze Network, which it currently does not.
http://www.xtra.fm/live/blanca.asx (from http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25531)
Hello, i just would like to ask if there are some news or a timeline regarding this bug. I've got still problems with the link from comment #5. I've contacted the radiostation, but they have a provider for their stream and see no chance to change something. Regards, Alexander Vollkopf
*** Bug 4522 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
bug 4522 refers to this url: mms://69.43.137.40/jazztrax061119h1.wma
note: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=156398&postcount=16 analysis from bpa that might suggest at least a detection point.
more detail on that log, from another thread: "The log of the error was done with WMA built-in disabled so I think checking for 404 and then trying transcoding won't work. Also adding ":1755" at the end of the address to force SS to use port 1755 and not 80 which was OK as a workaround in 6.2, doesn't work in 6.5 with SS unable to understand the HTTP response."
Related to the recent discussion, I've fixed bug 4522 where all MMS URLs were failing even with wmadec transcoding enabled.
http://media.rnltech.com/wjtlfmlive64.asx returns the following error PROBLEM: CAN'T CONNECT TO SERVER FOR: http://media.rnltech.com/wjtlfmlive64.asx however on the latest 6.5.1 snapshots, the stream it references mms://wjtlmedia.rnltech.com/wjtllive64 WILL play if directly entered into slimserver. reference see bug 4599
*** Bug 4599 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*** Bug 4702 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*** Bug 4777 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
http://www.decibel.nl/live/wma128.asx http://www.xtra.fm/live/brava.asx http://www.megastadfm.nl/live.htm http://wildfm.nl/wildfm.asx
I was the one who got in contact with Anoop complaining about these streams not working: http://www.decibel.nl/live/wma128.asx http://www.xtra.fm/live/brava.asx http://www.megastadfm.nl/live.htm http://wildfm.nl/wildfm.asx I want these stations being played from the Squeezebox3 while using the squeezenetwork. I read there were solution while using the SlimServer, but still nothing on how to play these streams via Squeezenetwork? Can a Slim Devices engineer comment on this please? What is the actual status? Is there a solution yet?
It's not really clear from looking at the bug, so I'll briefly summarize. Slimserver (and Squeeze Network) doesn't support mms:// streaming. It's something we'd have to license from Microsoft, and work out the logistical and legal issues about putting it in to an open source project like Slimserver. This is the reason this bug has been open collecting information for so long: so that we can see if the money and effort is worth it for our customers. The reason some of these URLs work is because Slimserver (and Squeeze Network) make a guess when they recieve an mms:// URL. They ALSO try the same URL with http://, and many of these servers also happen to have http:// streaming turned on, which we DO support.
*** Bug 4857 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*** Bug 4858 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Dean, is there any update on this with recent business developments (i.e. we're part of Logitech now)
Add mms://88.44.242.186/lisciocantato to the list of not working URL.
*** Bug 4535 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
mms://202.177.192.108/radio5 (see bug 4609)
*** Bug 7427 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*** Bug 8629 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Moving monitor bugs
add just about 100% of the stations listed here: http://www.antfarm.co.za/antradio/index.asp
Here's another URL: mms://stream.joefrank.com/Selections/AscenttoK2.wma I'd love to see this fixed.
All streams from http://live.irib.ir/live_en.htm seem to be affected (mms only streams)
I am far disappointed. I recently bought Squeezebox Boom which I chose mostly for it's support of many standards. Was sure that it would be able to play nearly all internet radio streams, at least including wma, mp3 and ogg. In the specification there is no information that it does not play mms type streaming. If I knew it, I would not buy it - especially that Philips Streamium NP2900/12 is a fine alternative. I see that the bug is rather a legal issue and probably will never be solved. If you still need other not working examples of not working mms streams, there is the site: http://101.ru/?an=index_eng All wma links are not working (few hundred). I do not understand why Squeezebox Boom is not compliant with mms streaming, one of the most important streaming standards. It's very frustrating, great thanks for Logitech.
cc'ing Pat Ransil, our new Director of software engineering
cc'ing Seth Schulte, our new Software marketing manager
MicroSoft deprecated MMS in favor of RTSP in 2003 and dropped support for it in Windows Media Services in 2008. We should look into supporting RTSP but we are unlikely to support MMS. Note that we do support MS-WMSP (AKA MMSH) which is a modified HTTP over TCP which is what Windows Media Player 'rolls over' to if RTSP fails (Windows Media Player 11) or if MMS fails (earlier Windows Media Player versions).
Removing QA as the assigned as (IMHO) this does not fall into the realm of "QA. Please assign accordingly.
Assigning to Seth to prioritize.
Deprecated by microsoft or not, lots of station still uses mms only. Not having it seriously crippels the SqueezeBox. Especialy with some alternatives supporting mms.
re-assigning Seth's bugs to Matt
*** Bug 15070 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Some links for the national danish radio (DR) don't work either. For instance, there is a link to the latest news: http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/htm/service/asx/uge/SenesteFM.asx This link returns a .asx xml document containing this link to the actual stream (which varies over the day as it contains the date and time of the latest news): mms://WMS.dr.dk/storage/auto/Nyheder/Radioavisen/Uge/06012010_ravis_onsdag_17_00.wma I really hope you can do something about this, since this particular link is quite important to me.
the following URLs don't work in SBB: http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s17712&partnerId=16 http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s7210&partnerId=16 http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s88600&partnerId=16 http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s14815&partnerId=16
---- the following URLs don't work in SBB: http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s17712&partnerId=16 http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s7210&partnerId=16 http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s88600&partnerId=16 http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s14815&partnerId=16 After disables built-in WMA decoding , on Windows, the stream plays ok but if I play by using mysqueezebox.com , it is still the same problem I can't play on my SBB. Pls advise how to fix it. Thank you
Matt Weldon doesn't work for us any more.
Unassigned bugs cannot have a priority.