Bug 7985 - Far left characters on VFD appear inconsistently bright
: Far left characters on VFD appear inconsistently bright
Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME
Product: SB Boom
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Hardware
: unspecified
: PC Windows XP
: P4 minor (vote)
: 7.2.1
Assigned To: Sean Adams
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Depends on:
Blocks:
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Reported: 2008-04-25 13:53 UTC by Ross Levine
Modified: 2009-09-08 09:31 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Attachments
test version with high filament current. (640.00 KB, application/octet-stream)
2008-05-02 13:17 UTC, Caleb Crome
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Description Ross Levine 2008-04-25 13:53:14 UTC
Thanks to Steven for pointing this out, it is significantly more noticeable with firmware 5.
Comment 1 Jim McAtee 2008-04-25 20:09:18 UTC
I've noticed this since receiving the Boom, but since nobody else had mentioned it, I just thought I had a faulty display.
Comment 2 Blackketter Dean 2008-05-02 12:49:14 UTC
Jim: Does it look better with the latest firmware?

Comment 3 Spies Steven 2008-05-02 12:56:04 UTC
Dean, I still see it easily with firmware 6.
Comment 4 Blackketter Dean 2008-05-02 13:11:40 UTC
What brightness level?
Comment 5 Caleb Crome 2008-05-02 13:17:15 UTC
Created attachment 3318 [details]
test version with high filament current.
Comment 6 Caleb Crome 2008-05-02 13:18:25 UTC
    I've seen 2 problems:  

    1) the display gets dim at the edges and bright in the middle.

    2) The displays have a mottled look of bright-dim-bright-dim from top to
    bottom.

    The #1 should be fixable by increasing the filament current in firmware.  I was
    trying to limit the redness of the filaments by lowering the current.

    The #2, may be related to filament current.  Try this firmware.
Comment 7 Ross Levine 2008-05-02 13:52:53 UTC
Caleb's #2 description more accurately portrays the issue I meant to report with this bug. The firmware you just posted looks significantly better but if you look you can still see the mottled brightness. It appears most on the 3rd and 4th column of pixels. 
Comment 8 Blackketter Dean 2008-05-02 13:56:57 UTC
I think that there's something weird going on here, there's a stripey pattern.  

Sean?
Comment 9 Jim McAtee 2008-05-02 15:03:32 UTC
Yes, I still see it.  Like Caleb describes as #2, or a stripey patter.  If I look closely, what I see are 3x3 pixel blocks that are dimmeer than the 3x3 pixel block above and below.  The effect gradually fades from left to right on the display.

Also, take a look at the volume bars displayed when using the two smaller fonts.  There's a very discernable pattern caused by lighter and darker blocks of pixels.
Comment 10 Blackketter Dean 2008-06-04 16:34:56 UTC
Caleb, is this a hardware issue?  Do we need to fix for ship?
Comment 11 Caleb Crome 2008-06-04 21:10:09 UTC
This is because we lower the filament voltage to reduce the redness of the filament at low brightnesses.  We can PWM the filament to get intermediate filament levels.

This is a tradeoff between even brightness across the display vs. brightness of the filaments.

This can be tuned in software.
Comment 12 Blackketter Dean 2008-06-05 07:19:23 UTC
So, nothing to be done here in hardware.
Comment 13 Jim McAtee 2008-06-05 08:29:58 UTC
So shouldn't this be made a software bug and left open until it's resolved?
Comment 14 Chris Owens 2008-06-05 15:50:04 UTC
Okay, so Caleb and Sean, are you aware of what changes Felix needs to make to the firmware to correct this problem?
Comment 15 Blackketter Dean 2008-08-04 12:42:45 UTC
Caleb/Sean: What should we do with this?
Comment 16 Sean Adams 2008-08-04 12:54:13 UTC
I don't know what could cause this - we have to ask Noritake. Since the bands run horizontally, not vertically, it is more likely an electrical issue or some physical property of this display, not something that could be affected by scan timing. The scan runs left to right, in groups of three columns at a time. 
Comment 17 Chris Owens 2008-09-30 13:53:32 UTC
I don't see this symptom here during the modern age.