Bug 7947 - Noise when Inverted polarity selected
: Noise when Inverted polarity selected
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: SB Transporter
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Audio
: unspecified
: PC Windows Vista
: -- enhancement (vote)
: 7.5.x
Assigned To: Sean Adams
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Depends on:
Blocks:
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Reported: 2008-04-22 18:49 UTC by David A. Gordon
Modified: 2010-05-07 11:11 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Category: Feature


Attachments
test track (69.13 MB, application/octet-stream)
2008-04-24 10:34 UTC, David A. Gordon
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Description David A. Gordon 2008-04-22 18:49:33 UTC
I'm having this problem with SC 7.0.1 - 19008, Firmware 37. I was also having the problem with the official 7.0 release.

When "Polarity Inversion" is set to "Inverted polarity" under the player Audio settings, I get loud noise (crackling) at certain times playing certain tracks.

This is 100% reproducible; when I have Inverted polarity selected, it happens 100% of the time when I get to certain points in certain tracks; when Normal polarity is selected it never happens.
Comment 1 Spies Steven 2008-04-24 09:40:23 UTC
David, have you tired reprogramming the Xilinx?  You can do this by restarting the Transporter by holding the power button on the remote until the Transporter reboots and then holding the 1 button on the remote.  The Transporter will display Programming Xilinx if you did it right.

If this does not solve the problem would you attach one of the files that exhibit the problem to this bug?  I was also curious how your Transporter is hooked up and what other equipment is connected to it.
Comment 2 David A. Gordon 2008-04-24 10:34:37 UTC
Created attachment 3285 [details]
test track

Problem happens around 2:08 in with Inverted polarity engaged.
Comment 3 David A. Gordon 2008-04-24 10:37:26 UTC
Yes, I've tried reprogramming the Xilinx.

I've attached a track that exhibits the problem; the problem will happen about 2:08 in.

The Transporter is connected via the balanced outs to a Jeff Rowland Concentra II, which is connected to ProAc D25s.

FWIW, I am not alone in having this problem:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=294596&postcount=12
Comment 4 Spies Steven 2008-04-24 16:16:54 UTC
Thanks for the file David.  I hear it as well at about 2:14 into the track with inverted polarity.  With normal polarity it plays fine.

The flac seems fine and metaflac reports:
sample_rate: 44100 Hz
channels: 2
bits-per-sample: 16
total samples: 28412160
reference libFLAC 1.1.4 20070213

Sean, would this one be for you?
Comment 5 Sean Adams 2008-06-18 10:06:55 UTC
Confirmed bug is present in V.43 with this test track.

Currently we are doing this inversion using a multiply, when gain is applied. I think it's probably doing the wrong thing when the input signal clips. Probably not too hard to fix, but will require rearranging some things and may have a small impact on CPU usage too. As such I am retargeting for 7.2. Alternate solution may be to do the inversion in the DAC instead. 
Comment 6 Mickey Gee 2008-11-10 14:06:52 UTC
Deferring to next release.
Comment 7 David A. Gordon 2010-01-06 20:59:21 UTC
So, seeing as how Sean, ya know, doesn't work there anymore, any update on this bug? (I'd have thought that when someone leaves the company, any bugs that were assigned to him would get reassigned.)
Comment 8 Chris Owens 2010-03-15 18:14:43 UTC
7.4.x milestone is in the past
Comment 9 Alan Young 2010-05-07 11:11:32 UTC
All new Squeezebox products are likely to be based on the SqueezePlay platform.
We do not plan to implement any further enhancements to the ip3k firmware or
which are targeted specifically at ip3k-based products.