Bugzilla – Bug 7874
Possibility to change font size on SBC
Last modified: 2011-11-06 23:24:24 UTC
It would be nice to have the option to make the fonts bigger (Specially for older people that don't see the little fonts well). I know that it might be too big to fit the screen, specialy in some languages, but it could auto-scroll sideways, like other titles that don't fit on the screen ..
For your consideration, Brian
Yeah I think that's a good idea. We'd have to tweak the timing, but I'd say probably 3 second pause until autoscrolling starts... So would we only increase the font size of menu items or icons in the status bar and things like that? I'd think the former, but what you think?
The screen which I think would make the most impact is the Now Playing overlay. Biggest thing I miss going from squeezebox to receiver is the inability to glance at the controller and see what's playing.
As has been observed elsewhere, the option to eliminate the album art in favor of easier to read text should be considered. The best thing would be the ability to customize the display along the lines of the MusicInfSRC plugin for the SB3. I certainly agree that the fonts are small, at least for we older folk - but also in bright light/glare conditions.
Would be good to be able to change the font color also. Having custom backgrounds is nice, but sometimes you can not read the print on the screen. Thanks
With the advent of 7.4, it seems to be time to revive this bug. See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68571. I'm in the "keep scrolling to a minimum" camp, and the current font (when combined with the icons on every line) reduces usable line length by at least 20%. Also, the Now Playing screen shows the song title in a nice large (and bold) font, but the artist/album/second information line is shown in a very small lightweight font which could be difficult to read for some. I personally would like both lines to be in the same font size/weight right in between these two lines.
I totally agree with Don: -------------------------- With the advent of 7.4, it seems to be time to revive this bug. See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68571. I'm in the "keep scrolling to a minimum" camp, and the current font (when combined with the icons on every line) reduces usable line length by at least 20%. Also, the Now Playing screen shows the song title in a nice large (and bold) font, but the artist/album/second information line is shown in a very small lightweight font which could be difficult to read for some. I personally would like both lines to be in the same font size/weight right in between these two lines. ------------------------- I do not need or want icons on every line. Could we return the Controller fonts/layout to the pre 7.4.0 layout? I thought it looked just dandy..... Has anyone at Logitech/Slim actually tried to use a Controller loaded up with 7.4.0 level firmware? - YIKES!
Please let us have the option for the 7.3 UI. So much nicer and logical. Keeps Internet radio and music services where they belong, not somewhere you have to hunt for them.
The user needs the ability to choose the font size. I understand that a larger font is necessary for some, but for others like myself a smaller font would be nicer on the controller. I have many classical albums where the title is tagged with the performer following the title. This causes constant scrolling and takes forever to find the appropriate piece to play. A smaller font would help reduce the scrolling and make the controller much more functional.
I agree with the previous posters. The neat screens of v7.3 has turned into ugly screens because of the large fonts. Please give the user the option to set the fontsize. In reality liked the cleanliness of the 7.3 screens (without the icons costing screenspace).
I had just recently purchased a Squeezebox Duet (roughly 3 weeks ago) and was blown away by it. The controller was extremely usable and while the UI was not flashy, it was very intuitive and concise. The layout was nice and font size perfect to get a lot on the screen without making it look crowded. Unfortunately I upgraded to ver. 7.4 and now feel the the UI is clunky. The font it too large and having the combination of icons plus text just plain wastes space. As others have mentioned it would be nice to either have the ability to use the 7.3 UI or to customize the new UI to the point of getting back to the look and feel of the previous UI.
I agree the fonts in the controller UI for 7.4 are too big. A lot of info doesn't even fit on the controller screen and it did in the previous versions. Why can't we have the fonts from the 7.3 edition? Or 7.4 in "7.3 style". I think the Logitech guys made an interface for the SB Touch and the SB Radio and "forgot" that the Controller has a much smaller screen.
I'd also like being able to reduce the font size on the controller, since with french language, most menu entries need scrolling (contextual menu being the worst). The regular players offer 3 font sizes: small, medium, big. Couldn't the controller offer the same, with "small" being what existed with 7.3, "big" what's offered now with 7.4, and "medium" something between? Maybe icon display could me made an option and/or adapt to the font size, too.
*** Bug 14440 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
The plan is to have a framework where "verbose" languages (like German) have a different default font size than "non-verbose" languages (like English). Because of the wide differences in word length etc between language, a "one-size-fits-all" strategy for fonts is not going to be successful. If we make the font size smaller for everyone, then people are going to complain about the English version being too small etc.
The problem isn't just with verbose languages. I use the controller in English and I also think the fonts are too big. Titles and song names require scrolling - and waiting for the program to move right. This is in the same places they didn't on previous versions of the software. Even some of the menu items themselves don't fit on the screen. How does that make sense?
The problem isn't just with verbose languages. I use the controller in English and I also think the fonts are too big. Titles and song names require scrolling - and/or waiting for the program to scroll sideways. This is in the same places they didn't on previous versions of the software. Even some of the menu items themselves don't fit on the screen. How does that make sense?
*** Bug 13425 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
(In reply to comment #15) > The plan is to have a framework where "verbose" languages (like German) have a > different default font size than "non-verbose" languages (like English). > > Because of the wide differences in word length etc between language, a > "one-size-fits-all" strategy for fonts is not going to be successful. If we > make the font size smaller for everyone, then people are going to complain > about the English version being too small etc. How in the world did a request to be able to adjust font size get interpreted as a request to do a "one-size-fits-all" change? It's not close to being the same thing. It's obvious that different font sizing is possible, with a lot of examples of using varied font sizing throughout the UI. Give users the ability to increase or decrease the size to their liking.
> Give users the ability to increase or decrease the size to their liking. Did you forget the magic word? We don't take orders.
Hi Logitech Staff- Reading these posts gives me the impression you are having a hard time understanding the complaint(s) here: 1. Readers in several languages, BOTH verbose AND non verbose noted that since the last controller firmware update, song titles, menu items and other elements of the text part of the UI aren't readable without scrolling or waiting for sideways movement. These same elements WERE visible without scrolling in previous controller versions, b/c the fonts displayed were smaller. 2. Some users want bigger fonts for those whose vision needs it 3. Some users want user control of font size. There is also a user impression that in the new controller UI, the fonts and use of album art/graphics are somehow setup for devices with larger screens than the duet controller, and the UI isn't optimal for the small controller screen size. Clearly between this bug report and the user discussion at "forums" you must have noticed a significant amount of displeasure with these elements of the new controller UI. We'd just like to know that there is some thought to addressing these problems. Thanks
I was immediately appalled by the controller UI change after updating to 7.4.1. It greatly reduces usability, sometimes to the point of total confusion and frustration. The previous UI, while not without flaws, was a shining example of tidiness and functionality in comparison. While a more configurable UI would be nice, I think the top priority at the moment should be to: * get rid of the icons * reduce overall font size (except in the few places were the font is exceedingly small at the moment) I understand you don't take orders, so PLEASE give us back a Duet controller that we can just use normally - like the one we originally bought. It's not really asking that much. Thank you.
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Yep, agree that the 7.4 UI is more time consuming due to larger font size. Would be great to make this user configurable if this is possible please.
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