Bug 4938 - Add support for FLAKE file format (FLAC offshoot)
: Add support for FLAKE file format (FLAC offshoot)
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: SB 2/3
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Audio
: 81
: PC Windows XP
: P2 enhancement (vote)
: Future
Assigned To: Felix Mueller
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Depends on:
Blocks:
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Reported: 2007-04-25 11:53 UTC by Dan Evans
Modified: 2009-11-18 06:25 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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First file attached -- skips around 0:55 and beyond (18.39 MB, application/octet-stream)
2007-04-25 11:57 UTC, Dan Evans
Details
2nd file attached -- skips immediately and throughout (29.47 MB, application/octet-stream)
2007-04-25 12:02 UTC, Dan Evans
Details

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Description Dan Evans 2007-04-25 11:53:48 UTC
(submitted by Support / DanE ... ref#070414-001019)

User has music collection ripped to FLAC using WinAmp.  The files will play in WinAmp but not in Squeezebox.  They play choppy and skip a lot.

I've tested some sample files here and I find the same thing that they play choppy, although I used Foobar2000, not WinAmp.  

Unchecking FLAC built-in decoder and forcing a transcode to WAV plays them flawlessly.
Comment 1 Dan Evans 2007-04-25 11:57:25 UTC
Created attachment 1912 [details]
First file attached -- skips around 0:55 and beyond
Comment 2 Dan Evans 2007-04-25 12:02:55 UTC
Created attachment 1913 [details]
2nd file attached -- skips immediately and throughout
Comment 3 Chris Owens 2007-04-25 12:04:04 UTC
Thanks for the samples, Dan.  That makes it easy to reproduce.
Comment 4 Spies Steven 2007-04-25 12:08:56 UTC
This may be similar to bug 4886.
Comment 5 Dan Evans 2007-04-25 12:15:57 UTC
The included samples are 44khz/16bit
Comment 6 Spies Steven 2007-04-25 12:39:13 UTC
According to metaflac these are Flake files. More information here:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=45013&view=findpost&p=463073
They probably take more power to decode then normal FLAC files.
Comment 7 Spies Steven 2007-04-25 12:48:08 UTC
Here is a better link about Flake:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=54361&view=findpost&p=487119
Comment 8 Chris Owens 2007-04-25 13:00:30 UTC
If there's a great deal of interest in supporting FLAKE files, users can vote for this bug.
Comment 9 Dan Evans 2007-04-26 11:57:27 UTC
I predict this is going to be an issue.  I've gotten more customer tickets say "Can't play my FLAC files ripped with WinAmp".  

I've downloaded WinAmp to see if they even identify they use FLAKE instead of FLAC.  And their decoder options read:  "FLAC Encoder (Flake SVN r117)".  So yes they do state it, but no it's likely not obvious to the end-user.
Comment 10 Spies Steven 2007-04-26 12:11:19 UTC
I find it disappointing that WinAmp allows its users to create non compliant FLAC files without warning. According to the link I posted in Comment #7 this will be addressed in the next version of WinAmp.
Comment 11 Richard Titmuss 2008-01-10 12:34:13 UTC
Reassigning Squeezebox firmware bugs to Felix.
Comment 12 Dan Evans 2009-11-18 06:25:10 UTC
This has completely faded away from Support's radar.  Either WinAMP changed how it's using FLAKE, or dropped it altogether.

Closing as WONTFIX.