Bug 3246 - wpa causes SB3 to disconnect from Motorola SGB900 every 15 minutes
: wpa causes SB3 to disconnect from Motorola SGB900 every 15 minutes
Status: CLOSED INVALID
Product: SB 2/3
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Wireless
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Assigned To: Ross Levine
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Reported: 2006-04-05 14:17 UTC by Kevin Pearsall
Modified: 2009-06-03 09:41 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Description Kevin Pearsall 2006-04-05 14:17:09 UTC
 
Comment 1 Bob Malecki 2006-04-11 16:31:26 UTC
From Bob Malecki:
I recently changed my wireless connection to my Motorola Sufboard 900 to WPA-PSK using TKIP encryption. My Sony notebook connects fine and stays connected no problem. I set up my SB2 with the same using WPA (not WPA2) and it connects to the wireless LAN, but then it drops off the network after 5-15 minutes. Also, no mater what IP I put in for the DNS server, I cannot connect to the SqueezeNetwork. I am having the exact same problems as cjhabs who posted this problem on the forum at http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22341&highlight=connecting. I'm currently at firmware v37 and SlimServer Version: 6.2.2 . I've done everything he's posted on the thread but still no joy. 

I specified a server-assigned IP and can now connect to Squeezenetwork, but WPA still drops.

I am now using WEP which works with the SB2, but I really need to have WPA working. 
Comment 2 Bob Malecki 2006-04-11 16:32:07 UTC
From Bob Malecki:
I recently changed my wireless connection to my Motorola Sufboard 900 to WPA-PSK using TKIP encryption. My Sony notebook connects fine and stays connected no problem. I set up my SB2 with the same using WPA (not WPA2) and it connects to the wireless LAN, but then it drops off the network after 5-15 minutes. Also, no mater what IP I put in for the DNS server, I cannot connect to the SqueezeNetwork. I am having the exact same problems as cjhabs who posted this problem on the forum at http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22341&highlight=connecting. I'm currently at firmware v37 and SlimServer Version: 6.2.2 . I've done everything he's posted on the thread but still no joy. 

I specified a server-assigned IP and can now connect to Squeezenetwork, but WPA still drops.

I am now using WEP which works with the SB2, but I really need to have WPA working. 
Comment 3 Chris Owens 2006-04-12 16:40:23 UTC
I have more than 50 routers in my collection now, and incredibly none of them are Motorolas.  Ordering one today.
Comment 4 Chris Owens 2006-04-18 17:22:04 UTC
I was easily able to repro the bug using FW37.  It seems to be fixed, though in FW42.

FW41 is the latest one released in the nightlies, but it has most of the stability improvements of 42.  Does it help?

I'll continue listening for a while (probably even let it run overnight) just to be sure.
Comment 5 Bob Malecki 2006-04-18 20:54:41 UTC
Subject: Re:  wpa causes SB3 to disconnect from Motorola
  SBG900 every 15 minutes

I installed FW41 and still the same behavior, it drops the connection in 
about 10-15 minutes. Display goes blank and I have to reboot the unit to 
get a network connection again, then it drops after about 10-15 minutes.

Bob

At 05:22 PM 4/18/2006, you wrote:
>https://bugs-archive.lyrion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3246
>
>
>
>
>
>------- Comment #4 from chris@slimdevices.com  2006-04-18 17:22 -------
>I was easily able to repro the bug using FW37.  It seems to be fixed, 
>though in
>FW42.
>
>FW41 is the latest one released in the nightlies, but it has most of the
>stability improvements of 42.  Does it help?
>
>I'll continue listening for a while (probably even let it run overnight) just
>to be sure.
>
>
>
>
>------- You are receiving this mail because: -------
>You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
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<body>
<font size=3>I installed FW41 and still the same behavior, it drops the
connection in about 10-15 minutes. Display goes blank and I have to
reboot the unit to get a network connection again, then it drops after
about 10-15 minutes.<br><br>
Bob<br><br>
At 05:22 PM 4/18/2006, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><a href="https://bugs-archive.lyrion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3246" eudora="autourl">https://bugs-archive.lyrion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3246</a><br><br>
<br><br>
<br><br>
------- Comment #4 from chris@slimdevices.com&nbsp; 2006-04-18 17:22
-------<br>
I was easily able to repro the bug using FW37.&nbsp; It seems to be
fixed, though in<br>
FW42.<br><br>
FW41 is the latest one released in the nightlies, but it has most of
the<br>
stability improvements of 42.&nbsp; Does it help?<br><br>
I'll continue listening for a while (probably even let it run overnight)
just<br>
to be sure.<br><br>
<br><br>
<br>
------- You are receiving this mail because: -------<br>
You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who
is.</font></blockquote></body>
</html>
Comment 6 Chris Owens 2006-04-19 09:42:41 UTC
Well, mine managed to stay connected all night.

What kind of machine do you have running slimserver?  What version of slimserver is it?  Is there anything unusual about your network that I ought to try to reproduce?

What does it say on the 'Info' screen in the config of your SBG900?

For instance, mine says:

Software version: SBG900-2.1.9.7-SCM00-NOSH 
Hardware version: 3 
Comment 7 Bob Malecki 2006-04-19 10:02:40 UTC
Subject: Re:  wpa causes SB3 to disconnect from Motorola
  SBG900 every 15 minutes

At 09:42 AM 4/19/2006, you wrote:
>------- Comment #6 from chris@slimdevices.com  2006-04-19 09:42 -------
>Well, mine managed to stay connected all night.
>
>What kind of machine do you have running slimserver?  What version of
>slimserver is it?  Is there anything unusual about your network that I 
>ought to
>try to reproduce?

WinXP

SlimServer Version: 6.5b1 - 6979 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252

Player info:

Player Firmware Version: 41

The IP address for this player is: 192.168.1.12:29243

The ethernet MAC address for this player is: 00:04:20:05:c1:3c

Wireless Signal Strength: 89%


Nothing unusual about the network. My Motorola Surfboard900 is set to 
WPA/TKIP, 0 Rekey Interval and WPA-PSK auth with a 9-alphanumeric password 
and only stations ID'd by MAC address are allowed to connect. I'm 
broadcasting on Channel 1 in 11b/11g Standard mode with 100% Transmit Power 
and 2347 as my RTS Threshold and 500 bytes for the Fragmentation Threshold, 
Beacon Period of 100 ms. and DTIM Period of 1 beacons.


>What does it say on the 'Info' screen in the config of your SBG900?

SURFboard SBG900
Software version: SBG900-2.1.9.7-SCM00-NOSH
Hardware version: 2




>For instance, mine says:
>
>Software version: SBG900-2.1.9.7-SCM00-NOSH
>Hardware version: 3
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<body>
<font size=3>At 09:42 AM 4/19/2006, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">------- Comment #6 from
chris@slimdevices.com&nbsp; 2006-04-19 09:42 -------<br>
Well, mine managed to stay connected all night.<br><br>
What kind of machine do you have running slimserver?&nbsp; What version
of<br>
slimserver is it?&nbsp; Is there anything unusual about your network that
I ought to<br>
try to reproduce?</font></blockquote><br>
WinXP<br><br>
<font size=3>SlimServer Version: 6.5b1 - 6979 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252
<br><br>
Player info:<br><br>
Player Firmware Version: 41<br><br>
The IP address for this player is: 192.168.1.12:29243<br><br>
The ethernet MAC address for this player is: 00:04:20:05:c1:3c<br><br>
Wireless Signal Strength: 89%<br><br>
<br>
</font>Nothing unusual about the network. My Motorola Surfboard900 is set
to WPA/TKIP, 0 Rekey Interval and WPA-PSK auth with a 9-alphanumeric
password and only stations ID'd by MAC address are allowed to connect.
I'm broadcasting on Channel 1 in 11b/11g Standard mode with 100% Transmit
Power and 2347 as my RTS Threshold and 500 bytes for the Fragmentation
Threshold, Beacon Period of 100 ms. and DTIM Period of 1 beacons.
<br><br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><font size=3>What does it say on
the 'Info' screen in the config of your SBG900?</font></blockquote><br>
SURFboard SBG900 <br>
Software version: SBG900-2.1.9.7-SCM00-NOSH <br>
Hardware version: 2 <br><br>
<br><br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><font size=3>For instance, mine
says:<br><br>
Software version: SBG900-2.1.9.7-SCM00-NOSH <br>
Hardware version: 3 </font></blockquote></body>
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Comment 8 Chris Owens 2006-04-19 12:51:37 UTC
Okay, I set up an address control list, and reduced my fragmentation threshhold to 500 (the default on my unit was an IMHO more-sensible 2346 bytes.

Watching it like a hawk.
Comment 9 Chris Owens 2006-04-19 15:31:59 UTC
Bob, have you tried turning on the 'Buffer Fullness' display (in slimserver, you have to enable it under 'player options' in the 'Now Playing Information' section)?

Do you see that before you have problems, the buffer fullness is down around 0%?

I usually expect buffer fullness to rapidly increase to 100% at the beginning of a new song, stay solidly at 98-100% during playback, then steadily decrease as the end of the song approaches (depending on what format of music is being played).  

With this Motorola it's basically the same, but I have seen some dips down into the 80s which is somewhat unusual.
Comment 10 Chris Owens 2006-04-19 17:49:24 UTC
So after wrestling with it for a little while, here's my recipe for success:

In the Wireless section, Network tab:
* You said RTS threshold was 2347?  Leave that as it is
* Fragmentation threshold: set to 2346 (this was my factory default)
* Beacon period, increase to 1000 ms (more typical I think)

See if that helps out.
Comment 11 Bob Malecki 2006-04-19 19:46:11 UTC
Subject: Re:  wpa causes SB3 to disconnect from Motorola
  SBG900 every 15 minutes

At 03:32 PM 4/19/2006, you wrote:
>Bob, have you tried turning on the 'Buffer Fullness' display (in slimserver,
>you have to enable it under 'player options' in the 'Now Playing Information'
>section)?

I looked all over but could not find this feature. Is it supposed to be on 
the right side of the menu under squeezbox where the playlists are displayed???

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<body>
<font size=3>At 03:32 PM 4/19/2006, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Bob, have you tried turning on
the 'Buffer Fullness' display (in slimserver,<br>
you have to enable it under 'player options' in the 'Now Playing
Information'<br>
section)? </blockquote><br>
I looked all over but could not find this feature. Is it supposed to be
on the right side of the menu under squeezbox where the playlists are
displayed???<br><br>
</font></body>
</html>
Comment 12 Bob Malecki 2006-04-20 09:11:59 UTC
Subject: Re:  wpa causes SB3 to disconnect from Motorola
  SBG900 every 15 minutes

Sorry same behavior, no joy. I even upgraded to version 42 this morning and 
still same behavior. Please advise, thanks.

Bob

PS, I can provide you remote access to both my Surfboard and Slim server if 
you want. This will have to be coordinated via phone either early in the 
morning or on Saturday.

At 05:49 PM 4/19/2006, you wrote:
>https://bugs-archive.lyrion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3246
>
>
>
>
>
>------- Comment #10 from chris@slimdevices.com  2006-04-19 17:49 -------
>So after wrestling with it for a little while, here's my recipe for success:
>
>In the Wireless section, Network tab:
>* You said RTS threshold was 2347?  Leave that as it is
>* Fragmentation threshold: set to 2346 (this was my factory default)
>* Beacon period, increase to 1000 ms (more typical I think)
>
>See if that helps out.
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<body>
<font size=3>Sorry same behavior, no joy. I even upgraded to version 42
this morning and still same behavior. Please advise, thanks. <br><br>
Bob<br><br>
PS, I can provide you remote access to both my Surfboard and Slim server
if you want. This will have to be coordinated via phone either early in
the morning or on Saturday. <br><br>
At 05:49 PM 4/19/2006, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><a href="https://bugs-archive.lyrion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3246" eudora="autourl">https://bugs-archive.lyrion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3246</a><br><br>
<br><br>
<br><br>
------- Comment #10 from chris@slimdevices.com&nbsp; 2006-04-19 17:49
-------<br>
So after wrestling with it for a little while, here's my recipe for
success:<br><br>
In the Wireless section, Network tab:<br>
* You said RTS threshold was 2347?&nbsp; Leave that as it is<br>
* Fragmentation threshold: set to 2346 (this was my factory 
default)<br>
* Beacon period, increase to 1000 ms (more typical I think)<br><br>
See if that helps out.<br>
</font></blockquote></body>
</html>
Comment 13 Chris Owens 2006-04-20 10:16:09 UTC
What about the buffer fullness display?

When the unit disconnects, does it display a message?  I would expect either 'can't connect to wireless network' or 'can't connect to slimserver'.

Have you tried turning on debugging in slimserver to see what it is seeing happen?  From the slimserver web gui, go to server settings -> debugging.  You should see a ton of checkboxes.  My favorites are usage, UI, stream_v, memory, firmware, files, and info.

The log data shows up on Windows systems in http://localhost:9000/log.txt

Have a look through there after a crash and see what it says!

This is frustrating since I have the same setup going here on my desk!

Comment 14 Bob Malecki 2006-04-21 07:17:15 UTC
Subject: Re:  wpa causes SB3 to disconnect from Motorola
  SBG900 every 15 minutes

At 10:16 AM 4/20/2006, you wrote:
>What about the buffer fullness display?

I turned it on, but when I hit the Now Playing  button I just get the 
scrolling title of the song and a large musical note icon on the right of 
the display


>When the unit disconnects, does it display a message?  I would expect either
>'can't connect to wireless network' or 'can't connect to slimserver'.

I watched it tonight, it just goes blank. Below is my log. Please advise.


Client not found for slimproto msg op: IR
Reading firmware version file: 
D:\Programs\SlimServer\server\Firmware\squeezebox2.version
squeezebox2 firmware is up-to-date, v. 43
Reading firmware version file: 
D:\Programs\SlimServer\server\Firmware\squeezebox2.version
squeezebox2 firmware is up-to-date, v. 43
Reading firmware version file: 
D:\Programs\SlimServer\server\Firmware\squeezebox2.version
squeezebox2 firmware is up-to-date, v. 43
Reading firmware version file: 
D:\Programs\SlimServer\server\Firmware\squeezebox2.version
squeezebox2 firmware is up-to-date, v. 43
Reading firmware version file: 
D:\Programs\SlimServer\server\Firmware\squeezebox2.version
squeezebox2 firmware is up-to-date, v. 43
Reading firmware version file: 
D:\Programs\SlimServer\server\Firmware\squeezebox2.version
squeezebox2 firmware is up-to-date, v. 43
cracked: http://localhost:9000/home.html?player=00%3A04%3A20%3A05%3Ac1%3A3c 
with [localhost],[9000],[/home.html?player=00%3A04%3A20%3A05%3Ac1%3A3c]
cracked: http://localhost:9000/ with [localhost],[9000],[/]
cracked: http://localhost:9000/ with [localhost],[9000],[/]
Reading firmware version file: 
D:\Programs\SlimServer\server\Firmware\squeezebox2.version
squeezebox2 firmware is up-to-date, v. 43
Reading firmware version file: 
D:\Programs\SlimServer\server\Firmware\squeezebox2.version
squeezebox2 firmware is up-to-date, v. 43
cracked: 
http://localhost:9000/setup.html?page=DEBUGGING_SETTINGS&player=00%3A04%3A20%3A05%3Ac1%3A3c 
with 
[localhost],[9000],[/setup.html?page=DEBUGGING_SETTINGS&player=00%3A04%3A20%3A05%3Ac1%3A3c]
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever 
Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever 
Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever 
Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever 
Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever 
Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever 
Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever 
Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever 
Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
Switching to playlist view
pushing button mode: playlist
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever 
Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
pushing button mode: SCREENSAVER.datetime
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever 
Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
popped to button mode: playlist
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever 
Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever 
Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
pushing button mode: SCREENSAVER.datetime
popped to button mode: playlist
popped to button mode: SCREENSAVER.datetime
popped to button mode: playlist
popped to button mode: INPUT.List
popped to button mode: empty!
popped to button mode: empty!
pushing button mode: home
pushing button mode: INPUT.List
pushing button mode: playlist
pushing button mode: trackinfo
pushing button mode: INPUT.List
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever 
Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever 
Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever 
Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
pushing button mode: SCREENSAVER.datetime
popped to button mode: INPUT.List
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever 
Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
pushing button mode: SCREENSAVER.datetime
popped to button mode: INPUT.List
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever 
Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
pushing button mode: SCREENSAVER.datetime


<html>
<body>
<font size=3>At 10:16 AM 4/20/2006, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">What about the buffer fullness
display?</font></blockquote><br>
I turned it on, but when I hit the Now Playing&nbsp; button I just get
the scrolling title of the song and a large musical note icon on the
right of the display<br><br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><font size=3>When the unit
disconnects, does it display a message?&nbsp; I would expect either<br>
'can't connect to wireless network' or 'can't connect to slimserver'.
</blockquote><br>
I watched it tonight, it just goes blank. Below is my log. Please
advise.<br><br>
<br>
</font><pre>Client not found for slimproto msg op: IR&nbsp; 
Reading firmware version file:
D:\Programs\SlimServer\server\Firmware\squeezebox2.version
squeezebox2 firmware is up-to-date, v. 43
Reading firmware version file:
D:\Programs\SlimServer\server\Firmware\squeezebox2.version
squeezebox2 firmware is up-to-date, v. 43
Reading firmware version file:
D:\Programs\SlimServer\server\Firmware\squeezebox2.version
squeezebox2 firmware is up-to-date, v. 43
Reading firmware version file:
D:\Programs\SlimServer\server\Firmware\squeezebox2.version
squeezebox2 firmware is up-to-date, v. 43
Reading firmware version file:
D:\Programs\SlimServer\server\Firmware\squeezebox2.version
squeezebox2 firmware is up-to-date, v. 43
Reading firmware version file:
D:\Programs\SlimServer\server\Firmware\squeezebox2.version
squeezebox2 firmware is up-to-date, v. 43
cracked:
<a href="http://localhost:9000/home.html?player=00%3A04%3A20%3A05%3Ac1%3A3c" eudora="autourl">http://localhost:9000/home.html?player=00%3A04%3A20%3A05%3Ac1%3A3c</a>
with [localhost],[9000],[/home.html?player=00%3A04%3A20%3A05%3Ac1%3A3c]
cracked: <a href="http://localhost:9000/" eudora="autourl">http://localhost:9000/</a> with [localhost],[9000],[/]
cracked: <a href="http://localhost:9000/" eudora="autourl">http://localhost:9000/</a> with [localhost],[9000],[/]
Reading firmware version file: D:\Programs\SlimServer\server\Firmware\squeezebox2.version
squeezebox2 firmware is up-to-date, v. 43
Reading firmware version file: D:\Programs\SlimServer\server\Firmware\squeezebox2.version
squeezebox2 firmware is up-to-date, v. 43
cracked: <a href="http://localhost:9000/setup.html?page=DEBUGGING_SETTINGS&amp;player=00%3A04%3A20%3A05%3Ac1%3A3c" eudora="autourl">http://localhost:9000/setup.html?page=DEBUGGING_SETTINGS&amp;player=00%3A04%3A20%3A05%3Ac1%3A3c</a> with [localhost],[9000],[/setup.html?page=DEBUGGING_SETTINGS&amp;player=00%3A04%3A20%3A05%3Ac1%3A3c]
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
Switching to playlist view
pushing button mode: playlist
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
pushing button mode: SCREENSAVER.datetime
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
popped to button mode: playlist
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
pushing button mode: SCREENSAVER.datetime
popped to button mode: playlist
popped to button mode: SCREENSAVER.datetime
popped to button mode: playlist
popped to button mode: INPUT.List
popped to button mode: empty!
popped to button mode: empty!
pushing button mode: home
pushing button mode: INPUT.List
pushing button mode: playlist
pushing button mode: trackinfo
pushing button mode: INPUT.List
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
pushing button mode: SCREENSAVER.datetime
popped to button mode: INPUT.List
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
pushing button mode: SCREENSAVER.datetime
popped to button mode: INPUT.List
metadata (len: 96): StreamTitle='The Magic Numbers - Forever Lost';StreamUrl='http://www.radioparadise.com';
pushing button mode: SCREENSAVER.datetime

</body>
</html>
Comment 15 Chris Owens 2006-04-21 16:15:48 UTC
The buffer fullness setting is data that can be displayed on the Squeezebox's screen.  However, it's not enabled by default.  When your Squeezebox is connected to your slimserver, the slimserver web page will have a 'Player Settings' link on the left side of the UI, below Server Settings.

About halfway down the Player Settings page is a section called 'Now Playing Information'.  This is the list of items that can be displayed as you are playing a track.  The interface has changed slightly from one version of Slimserver to the next, but there should be an option to add 'Show Buffer Fullness' to the menu.

Verify it is correctly selected by noting on the display that some percentage (with a % sign) is displayed in the upper right corner.  You can change the information that is being displayed by hitting the 'Now Playing' button on your remote.

Just to make sure I am understanding the problem you are having, though, this is happening with Slimserver, right?  Or with Squeeze Network?  Does it happen with both?  Sorry I forgot to clarify this earlier.
Comment 16 Bob Malecki 2006-04-21 16:24:52 UTC
Subject: Re:  wpa causes SB3 to disconnect from Motorola
  SBG900 every 15 minutes

At 04:15 PM 4/21/2006, you wrote:

>------- Comment #15 from chris@slimdevices.com  2006-04-21 16:15 -------
>The buffer fullness setting is data that can be displayed on the Squeezebox's
>screen.  However, it's not enabled by default.  When your Squeezebox is
>connected to your slimserver, the slimserver web page will have a 'Player
>Settings' link on the left side of the UI, below Server Settings.
>
>About halfway down the Player Settings page is a section called 'Now Playing
>Information'.  This is the list of items that can be displayed as you are
>playing a track.  The interface has changed slightly from one version of
>Slimserver to the next, but there should be an option to add 'Show Buffer
>Fullness' to the menu.

I did find and enable this, but my SB2's display just shows a large musical 
note  on the right side of the display when I hit the Now Playing button on 
my remote.


>Verify it is correctly selected by noting on the display that some percentage
>(with a % sign) is displayed in the upper right corner.  You can change the
>information that is being displayed by hitting the 'Now Playing' button on 
>your
>remote.
>
>Just to make sure I am understanding the problem you are having, though, this
>is happening with Slimserver, right?  Or with Squeeze Network?  Does it happen
>with both?  Sorry I forgot to clarify this earlier.

Yes, both slimeserver and squeezenetwork. The problem is with maintaining 
contact with the Motorola Surfboard900 via wireless when WPA is enabled. If 
WEP or no security is enabled, no problem. With WPA enabled, the unit goes 
offline within 5-15 minutes. I've explained this to Kevin a few times 
already and this should be in my support ticket notes.


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<font size=3>At 04:15 PM 4/21/2006, you wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">------- Comment #15 from
chris@slimdevices.com&nbsp; 2006-04-21 16:15 -------<br>
The buffer fullness setting is data that can be displayed on the
Squeezebox's<br>
screen.&nbsp; However, it's not enabled by default.&nbsp; When your
Squeezebox is<br>
connected to your slimserver, the slimserver web page will have a
'Player<br>
Settings' link on the left side of the UI, below Server
Settings.<br><br>
About halfway down the Player Settings page is a section called 'Now
Playing<br>
Information'.&nbsp; This is the list of items that can be displayed as
you are<br>
playing a track.&nbsp; The interface has changed slightly from one
version of<br>
Slimserver to the next, but there should be an option to add 'Show
Buffer<br>
Fullness' to the menu.</font></blockquote><br>
I did find and enable this, but my SB2's display just shows a large
musical note&nbsp; on the right side of the display when I hit the Now
Playing button on my remote. <br><br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><font size=3>Verify it is
correctly selected by noting on the display that some percentage<br>
(with a % sign) is displayed in the upper right corner.&nbsp; You can
change the<br>
information that is being displayed by hitting the 'Now Playing' button
on your<br>
remote.<br><br>
Just to make sure I am understanding the problem you are having, though,
this<br>
is happening with Slimserver, right?&nbsp; Or with Squeeze Network?&nbsp;
Does it happen<br>
with both?&nbsp; Sorry I forgot to clarify this earlier.
</font></blockquote><br>
Yes, both slimeserver and squeezenetwork. The problem is with maintaining
contact with the Motorola Surfboard900 via wireless when WPA is enabled.
If WEP or no security is enabled, no problem. With WPA enabled, the unit
goes offline within 5-15 minutes. I've explained this to Kevin a few
times already and this should be in my support ticket notes. <br><br>
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Comment 17 Bob Malecki 2006-04-27 22:34:36 UTC
Subject: Re:  wpa causes SB3 to disconnect from Motorola
  SBG900 every 15 minutes

At 04:15 PM 4/21/2006, you wrote:
>https://bugs-archive.lyrion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3246

Hi All,

I put in the new Motorola Surfboard900 that Kevin so kindly sent me but no 
joy-- I'm still getting the same behavior. I even upgraded to the latest 
firmware as noted below. Could it be the SB2 hardware itself?

Please advise and thanks,

Bob Malecki



Player Firmware Version: 48

The IP address for this player is: 192.168.1.12:47821

The ethernet MAC address for this player is: 00:04:20:05:c1:3c

Wireless Signal Strength: 84%
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<font size=3>At 04:15 PM 4/21/2006, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><a href="https://bugs-archive.lyrion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3246" eudora="autourl">https://bugs-archive.lyrion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3246</a>
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Hi All,<br><br>
I put in the new Motorola Surfboard900 that Kevin so kindly sent me but no joy-- I'm still getting the same behavior. I even upgraded to the latest firmware as noted below. Could it be the SB2 hardware itself?<br><br>
Please advise and thanks, <br><br>
Bob Malecki<br><br>
<br><br>
Player Firmware Version: 48<br><br>
The IP address for this player is: 192.168.1.12:47821<br><br>
The ethernet MAC address for this player is: 00:04:20:05:c1:3c<br><br>
Wireless Signal Strength: 84%<br>
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Comment 18 Bob Malecki 2006-05-05 10:45:31 UTC
Subject: Re:  wpa causes SB3 to disconnect from Motorola
  SBG900 every 15 minutes

At 04:15 PM 4/21/2006, you wrote:


>https://bugs-archive.lyrion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3246

Hello,

Well, I put in the new SB3 you sent me and unbelievable-- the same problem 
is persisting. Is the unit that I sent you having this problem, or is it 
running normally?

Bob <html>
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<font size=3>At 04:15 PM 4/21/2006, you wrote:<br><br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><a href="https://bugs-archive.lyrion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3246" eudora="autourl">https://bugs-archive.lyrion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3246</a>
</blockquote><br>
Hello,<br><br>
Well, I put in the new SB3 you sent me and unbelievable-- the same problem is persisting. Is the unit that I sent you having this problem, or is it running normally?<br><br>
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Comment 19 Bob Malecki 2006-05-06 07:14:35 UTC
Subject: Re:  wpa causes SB3 to disconnect from Motorola
  SBG900 every 15 minutes

Good news, I found the culprit! I have a  the Motorola Surfboard connected 
to a Netgear 8 port switch which connects my wife's Mac G4, a Vonage VOIP 
router and SNAP server for backup. I disconnected all devices from the 
switch and the SB3 stayed connected for an hour. Great. So then I started 
to connect each device back into the switch one at a time. Ultimately I 
found that the SB3 would disconnect only when the Snap Server was connected 
to the LAN. That's pretty bizarre, but why? Well, I went into the admin 
control panel for the Snap and found that I had NetBIOS enabled over TCP/IP 
and NetBEUI. I changed the setting so that it was enabled only over TCP/IP, 
rebooted the Snap and the SB3 and voila the SB3 stayed connected all night.

So, it seems that this has something to do with NetBIOS over NetBUI coming 
from the Snap server. Any ideas? I would assume that this setting causes 
the Snap to broacast something to all nodes on the LAN and is causing the 
SB to drop the connection. Perhaps you should contact the folks at Snap to 
see what they are doing. 
http://www.snapappliance.com/page.cfm?name=ContactUs&nav=about

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<font size=3>Good news, I found the culprit! I have a&nbsp; the Motorola
Surfboard connected to a Netgear 8 port switch which connects my wife's
Mac G4, a Vonage VOIP router and SNAP server for backup. I disconnected
all devices from the switch and the SB3 stayed connected for an hour.
Great. So then I started to connect each device back into the switch one
at a time. Ultimately I found that the SB3 would disconnect only when the
Snap Server was connected to the LAN. That's pretty bizarre, but why?
Well, I went into the admin control panel for the Snap and found that I
had NetBIOS enabled over TCP/IP and NetBEUI. I changed the setting so
that it was enabled only over TCP/IP, rebooted the Snap and the SB3 and
voila the SB3 stayed connected all night. <br><br>
So, it seems that this has something to do with NetBIOS over NetBUI
coming from the Snap server. Any ideas? I would assume that this setting
causes the Snap to broacast something to all nodes on the LAN and is
causing the SB to drop the connection. Perhaps you should contact the
folks at Snap to see what they are doing.
<a href="http://www.snapappliance.com/page.cfm?name=ContactUs&amp;nav=about" eudora="autourl">http://www.snapappliance.com/page.cfm?name=ContactUs&amp;nav=about<br><br>
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Comment 20 Blackketter Dean 2006-06-06 17:09:58 UTC
Glad you found a workaround.  We'll ask about the netbios issue.  Thanks.
Comment 21 Peter D'Hoye 2007-06-02 05:56:47 UTC
Is this bugreport related to this?
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22963

I recently started using a wireless router AND enabled filesharing. I thought the router was to blame, but this seems to point to the file sharing.

I'm changing my settings now and start praying. This bug is very annoying and little documented, so I linked to this report from the above forumthread.
Comment 22 Peter D'Hoye 2007-06-04 15:53:02 UTC
I've disabled netbios, file & printer sharing and the MS client service. No help.

Still, after some time the playback stops, screen goes dark. It seems to get worse once it starts happening (it can play ok for an hour and then not manage to play for 3 minutes. A powercycle helps.

This is with a D-Link DI-524 wireless router with firmware V2.04Patch05 (Mon, Feb 26 2007). Signal is between 50% and 60%. My device is an SB2.

I will now move from WPA2-AES to WPA-TKIP and see if this helps.
Comment 23 James Richardson 2008-09-11 10:58:53 UTC
Ross: here's another one to look at.
Comment 24 Chris Owens 2008-09-15 09:28:37 UTC
Since this is for a different router than the one exlicitly named in the subject, could you create a new bug, Ross?  Felix notes that fw88 has a fix that may help.
Comment 25 Peter D'Hoye 2008-09-15 11:28:03 UTC
Seeing the recent activity here I thought I'd give an update on my situation.

After switching to WPA-TKIP, things went much better, so I've written this down to WPA2. Since then I also moved to a new router and upgraded to 7.2 so nothing is left of the original setup. Maybe I should try WPA2 again, but I read somewhere that the AES encryption is probably a bit too demanding....
Comment 26 Ross Levine 2008-09-15 13:39:12 UTC
This bug is no longer about the Motorola SGB900, it is about Snap server and NetBEUI per comment #19. 

Peter, do you have a Snap server? Would you mind briefly explaining your specific issue to help me determine if I should close this bug and open a new one? 
Comment 27 Peter D'Hoye 2008-09-15 14:04:18 UTC
no I have no SNAP server, sorry...
Comment 28 Ross Levine 2008-09-15 15:20:08 UTC
Closing this as invalid per comment #19. Peter, please contact support@slimdevices.com and they can walk you through the wireless issue it sounds like you're having. Please also take a look at our Router Status wiki to see if your particular access point has a known issue with any of our players: 

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/RouterStatus

If you and support determine another bug is the issue they will file it and we'll take over from the beginning.

The Motorola SGB900 we have here in the QA lab and I've tested it to work fine with Duet and an IP3K player. 

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/RouterStatus#Motorola