Bug 2066 - Various Artists and the ALBUMARTIST tag problem?
: Various Artists and the ALBUMARTIST tag problem?
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: Logitech Media Server
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Tagging
: 6.2.0
: PC Windows XP
: P2 normal (vote)
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Assigned To: Dan Sully
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Depends on:
Blocks:
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Reported: 2005-09-03 03:42 UTC by Philip Meyer
Modified: 2008-09-15 14:36 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Attachments
Test song 1 (144.22 KB, application/ogg)
2005-09-15 04:39 UTC, Dieter
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Test song 2 (144.22 KB, application/ogg)
2005-09-15 04:39 UTC, Dieter
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Test song 3 (144.23 KB, application/ogg)
2005-09-15 04:40 UTC, Dieter
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Test song 4 (144.23 KB, application/ogg)
2005-09-15 04:41 UTC, Dieter
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Description Philip Meyer 2005-09-03 03:42:40 UTC
I like the new Various Artists implementation, but I believe it's not quite 
working how I would have imagined.

I like the way Slimserver determines that an album is a various artists album 
based on more than one "track artist" belonging to the album.  This works for 
the majority of my albums, as I haven't tagged the majority of VA albums with 
an ALBUMARTIST tag.

However, I have some albums where the majority of the tracks are by one 
artist, but there's one track by a different artist.  I don't want these 
albums to be displayed under Various Artists, rather use the main artist as 
the album artist.  So I thought I could simply tag all of the tracks of that 
album with ALBUMARTIST=<main artist name> to override the slimserver VA 
detection.  SlimServer still seems to detect that this is a various artist 
album and pops it under "Various Artists".

I assumed the feature would work like "Guess Tags" - if tags are set, use 
them, otherwise if there are no tags try to guess them, otherwise file under 
No Artist/No Album.

I have "Group compilation albums together" and "Don't include compilation 
artists in artist list".

For an example album that I have been playing around with to test the feature, 
every track has the same content for the album tag. ARTISTSORT and ALBUMARTIST 
are both set to the main artist for the album, and the artist tags are 
variable.  The artists are correctly not exploded into the "browse artist" 
list.  The only problem is that the album appears under "Various Artists" 
rather than ALBUMARTIST.

I suppose I could tag all of my various artists albums to have ALBUMARTIST 
tags, and turn off the slimserver auto detection, but for the majority of 
cases, slimserver gets it right.
Comment 1 Blackketter Dean 2005-09-09 16:45:58 UTC
Dan: one thing I think we forgot in our discussion is that if an ALBUMARTIST tag is present, then the 
heuristics for guessing various artists should be skipped, per this bug.
Comment 2 Dan Sully 2005-09-13 15:18:30 UTC
Large Various Artists / Multiple Artists in Tags update checked in as subversion change 4258.
Comment 3 Blackketter Dean 2005-09-14 11:09:39 UTC
dip posted:
 Bug 2066 is not solved in SOME cases. I have an album on which all
but TWO songs are of Artist1 and these TWO songs are duetts of "Artist1
and Artist2" and "Artist1 and Artist3", respectively. All songs are OGG
VORBIS files and for these two songs the ARTIST tag is set to "Artist1
& Artist2" and "Artist1 & Artist3", respectively ("&" is set as
separator). For this album the new Compilation flag is set to "Yes"
ALTHOUGH ALBUMARTIST IS SET TO "Artist1" (so it should be an "Artist1"
album and not a VA album).
Comment 4 Blackketter Dean 2005-09-14 11:10:16 UTC
also: 
I played a little bit around and found that this happens only with OGG
VORBIS files but not with mp3 files. In addition I found that even with
OGG VORBIS files this happens only if there are AT LEAST TWO files with
two DIFFERENT second artists. That means if there is only one song with
"Artist1 & Artist2" the album is correctly not classified as VA album.
And if there are several duets on the album BUT ALWAYS WITH THE SAME
SECOND ARTIST (e.g. "Artist1 & Artist2) then the album is also
correctly not classified as VA album.
Comment 5 Dan Sully 2005-09-14 14:22:58 UTC
This is fixed in subversion change 4281.

If you have a ALBUMARTIST across all the tracks in that album, it will override any automatic behavior.
Comment 6 Dieter 2005-09-15 04:39:33 UTC
Created attachment 823 [details]
Test song 1

This bug is NOT fixed in the 2005/9/15 nightly (subversion 4294). I enclose
this and three further ogg files (only 10 seconds samples) with which the
desribed behavior can be reproduced. Although all files are tagged with
ALBUMARTIST=Mike the album has the Compilation flag set to Yes and is shown
under Various Artists.
Comment 7 Dieter 2005-09-15 04:39:53 UTC
Created attachment 824 [details]
Test song 2
Comment 8 Dieter 2005-09-15 04:40:15 UTC
Created attachment 825 [details]
Test song 3
Comment 9 Dieter 2005-09-15 04:41:13 UTC
Created attachment 826 [details]
Test song 4

In fact, all songs are copies of the identical song sample which have simply
been renamend and retagged.
Comment 10 Dieter 2005-09-15 06:44:39 UTC
I just recognized that all test songs are downloaded as attachment.cgi when
clicking on the above links. But it seems that one has simply to replace the
"cgi" by "ogg" to obtain correct ogg files with the correct tags.
Comment 11 Dan Sully 2005-09-15 10:24:22 UTC
Ok - really fixed in subversion change 4297.

Thanks