Bug 15579 - can't shut off another device without shutting down local controller too
: can't shut off another device without shutting down local controller too
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: SB Touch
Classification: Unclassified
Component: UI
: unspecified
: PC Windows XP
: P4 normal with 3 votes (vote)
: 7.5.0
Assigned To: Ben Klaas
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Reported: 2010-02-01 19:05 UTC by Ryan
Modified: 2010-04-16 09:04 UTC (History)
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Description Ryan 2010-02-01 19:05:54 UTC
If you select choose player and have control of another player there is no menu item to switch the other player off so you must use the power button. this switches the other player off along with the controller in touch so it may continue to play but there is no display and no way to control it until you switch it back on which turns on the player you were controlling. Waking up your visiting in-laws. This should be more like Jive where the controller stays alive and you can switch around between players at random. You should be able to switch players turn on/off, volume whatever than switch players back to the local one and control it properly.
Comment 1 Michael Herger 2010-02-02 00:05:41 UTC

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 15578 ***
Comment 2 Michael Herger 2010-02-02 00:06:19 UTC
let's make bug 15578 a dupe of this one - it's got a better description
Comment 3 Michael Herger 2010-02-02 00:06:32 UTC
*** Bug 15578 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 4 Chris Owens 2010-02-02 12:49:47 UTC
Ben, I realize this is a complex bug, which may have server-side parts, but I'm just going to start with you since there's definitely a heavy SP component.
Comment 5 Ben Klaas 2010-02-03 09:46:42 UTC
fyi, player power was explicitly removed from the menu, by design.

from SlimMenus.lua
   elseif item.id == "playerpower" and System:hasSoftPower() and System:getMachine() ~= 'squeezeplay' then
                                --ignore, playerpower no longer shown to users since we use power button, unless this is a device without a power button


this is actually not that complex of a bug, we just need to decide what to do. The suggestion is at least in partial contradiction to what was decided on several months ago by the (now gone) design team.

I'll give this some further thought and see if I can spec it out myself.
Comment 6 SVN Bot 2010-02-03 11:02:38 UTC
 == Auto-comment from SVN commit #8448 to the jive repo by bklaas ==
 == https://svn.slimdevices.com/jive?view=revision&revision=8448 ==

Fixed Bug: 15579
Description: allow player power menu item on home menu when controlling a non-local player
Comment 7 Ryan 2010-02-16 11:41:02 UTC
Yes I like the new menu item. However; when you choose a player and turn it off the local controller also sleeps, and the remote player wakes up when you turn on the local player. So the new menu item is there to turn it off but the functionality is the same as it was. 

8504
Comment 8 Ben Klaas 2010-02-16 11:56:41 UTC
The "When Off" screensaver appears when the controlled player is turned off, by design.

My inclination now is that this is a WONTFIX and I should revert the previous change.

Tagging with bug_meeting.
Comment 9 Ryan 2010-02-17 08:12:49 UTC
When controlling with jive you are able to shutdown a player then choose another to control, control it etc. without the jive shuting down.

Anyway I like having the menu item for the controlled player power down. As a user it gives a better understanding of what is going on. Remote or local player.
Comment 10 Chris Owens 2010-02-18 09:46:11 UTC
Ben will revert the change.
Comment 11 SVN Bot 2010-02-19 10:24:09 UTC
 == Auto-comment from SVN commit #8535 to the  repo by bklaas ==
 == https://svn.slimdevices.com/?view=revision&revision=8535 ==

Bug: 15579
Description: revert earlier change. Turn Off Player will not be a menu item for system's with soft power availability.
Comment 12 Ben Klaas 2010-02-19 10:26:44 UTC
This is a WONTFIX

The decision to remove the Turn Player Off menu item for players with soft power button capability was made by the design team last fall and will stay.
Comment 13 Digital Mitch 2010-04-16 09:04:46 UTC
understand the desire not to change design decisions, but can this be reviewed in light of user experience now the product is in the market?

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77392

If the Touch can't effectively switch off other players, it can't really be said to be able to control them. 

When I say "effectively" I mean that the Touch can do something else after switching off one other player without having to switch that other player back on.