Bug 12360 - Remote skin - 10ft (large text) should not display icons in most cases
: Remote skin - 10ft (large text) should not display icons in most cases
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: SB Touch
Classification: Unclassified
Component: UI Skin
: unspecified
: All Other
: -- normal (vote)
: 8.0.0
Assigned To: Weldon Matt
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Reported: 2009-06-12 09:52 UTC by ndijulio
Modified: 2009-10-28 09:25 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Description ndijulio 2009-06-12 09:52:40 UTC
For the large format (10ft) UI adding icons to the left of menu items reduces clarity and readability.  Suggest using iconlist templates for Home and Album screens only.  Settings, My Music sub-menus, etc. do not benefit from added icons.  In most cases, icons reduce the number of characters viewable on screen.  Limiting icons to specific screens will also help distinguish areas of the UI to help the user know when they have reached home.
Comment 1 Blackketter Dean 2009-06-12 10:02:07 UTC
Let's see some screenshots, noah.
Comment 2 ndijulio 2009-06-12 10:06:34 UTC
Screenshots of the behavior I proposing we avoid w/ icons?
Comment 3 ndijulio 2009-06-12 10:12:13 UTC
The reason the SB Classic can be considered a "10ft" UI is that it has 2 things going for it:

1. It is very high contrast with a fixed, unified single black background.

2. It is TEXT only using an extended landscape format- ideal for long text strings.
Comment 4 Ben Klaas 2009-07-07 21:02:54 UTC
incorrectly targetted
Comment 5 ndijulio 2009-07-07 21:31:01 UTC
The decision on this falls primarily to Weldon and Dean.  

My suggestion from a readability standpoint and overall visual clarity is that adding icons is not always a win.  On the "10ft" UI and especially Jive, icons simply add unnecessary padding of the text.  More often times than not the text will be cut-off and need to scroll.

If we did NOT localize text for non-English speaking countries then I would be a huge proponent of icons.  Icons are great, however, when real-estate is limited icons are more or less "fat."

Dean- Do you still want to see screenshot comparisons of icons and without?
Comment 6 ndijulio 2009-07-15 09:36:12 UTC
This might require a meeting/conversation with Dean, Matt, and myself...
Comment 7 ndijulio 2009-07-16 19:36:42 UTC
Dean- reassigning to you for final decision.
Comment 8 Richard Titmuss 2009-07-27 01:11:24 UTC
Reset priority before triage.
Comment 9 Blackketter Dean 2009-07-28 13:04:38 UTC
Yes, noah, some screen shots as you propose it should be.
Comment 10 ndijulio 2009-10-22 15:35:13 UTC
Assigning to Weldon for final directive.

25cents:

Remove icons from large font skin (10ft) in ALL cases.  Icons are not legible from 7ft+ away and only serve to cut-off text further.  

Albums view is only proposed exception.  In this case, color and composition are bold and different enough to provide navigational aid at far distances.
Comment 11 ndijulio 2009-10-27 14:58:15 UTC
Settings -> Choose Player should keep icons.
Comment 12 SVN Bot 2009-10-28 09:25:49 UTC
 == Auto-comment from SVN commit #7960 to the jive repo by bklaas ==
 == https://svn.slimdevices.com/jive?view=revision&revision=7960 ==

Fixed Bug: 12360
Description: show icons in Choose Player menu on large text skin
Choose Player and Album listings are the only windows that show left-hand icons in the large text skin now
I'm considering this bug fixed